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Re: Crankcase sealant

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:16 pm
by Wolfie
OK so experiments over..

I used.. Comma Silicone RTV, (the stuff I use most places) my sample for this was the cured inside pushed out from the nozzle, perfect because the inner part was still liquid.

Just how long does this disastrous effect take Barrie? it's now been sat in neat petrol since last week, in fact the petrol has just about gone now, it had NO EFFECT AT ALL ON THE CURED SILICONE. the still liquid end stayed complete and just as it was.

I daresay that if it were left in a fuel flow uncured, it might wash away eventually (as anything liquid might), but sat in petrol it did NOTHING AT ALL. and now the petrol has all but gone, would you believe.. it has started to cure and harden. I doubt it will ever reach the strength of the pre cured Silicone but still NOTHING HAPPENED.

During the main test I noticed I had an old tube of Blue Hylomar, semi hardening gasket, lumps of this too were added to experiment and guess what.. NOTHING HAS HAPPENED TO THIS EITHER, IT IS STILL JUST THE SAME AS IT WAS PLACED INTO THE PETROL,
At the same time I also added some ordinary white Bathroom Sealer to the experiment, this too is now high and dry and just as sturdy and pliable as the day it was added into the Petrol.

NOTHING AT ALL HAS HAPPENED TO ANY OF THESE SILICONES SOAKED IN PETROL.

Over the weekend I replaced my oil pipe which needed the carbs removing, and being so close to the cause of your original insult, I also took a few minutes to remove the inlet rubbers too, oh dear...

All the RTV is exactly as I left it two years ago, even a tiny bead which had sqweezed into one inlet and so would have been in the fuel flow for those two years was still there, still pliable and still as rubbery as the day it was put there.

So Yeah, you wouldn't necessarily use Silicone to plug holes, especially in a fuel flow situation, but use as a gasket or gasket enhancer it's absolutely fine, I would add that letting it cure first is the only care possibly needed for it to be perfectly stable.

You must be feeling like a bit of a Prick by now Barrie so I'll leave you to your tears.
If ever I see you condemning Silicones upon threat of doom and destruction, I'll take the opposite side and also make reference to your abusive disposition concerning such things.. now go away.

Re: Crankcase sealant

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:42 pm
by malc87
Ive just removed all the silicone off the shower and put gasket goo on and water is now pissing through the ceiling?
What have I not understood about this thread? :smt003

Re: Crankcase sealant

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:45 am
by downpipe3
malc87 wrote:Ive just removed all the silicone off the shower and put gasket goo on and water is now pissing through the ceiling?
What have I not understood about this thread? :smt003
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Crankcase sealant

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:06 am
by Barrie
As a professional engineer I made these comments in good faith.
It would seem you have a personal vendetta against me, fine carry on ,your the amateur not me.
If you don't want me in this club return my subscription

Re: Crankcase sealant

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:35 am
by Rubbadub
bloody hell Barrie, lighten up, the point is you were using caps and being emphatic,twice, not wolfie, your opinion is valued, but please be couteous in the way its delivered otherwise the mickey takes will kick off and now look, youve triggered Wolfies OCD. Also calling him an amateur is really not a good idea, he has, and does repeatedly help and support a great deal of people on this forum with grace good humour, and yes an almost pathological eye for detail. Its typical that he goes off and experiments on your claims because thats his MO, he dosent espouse opinions, he digs for facts. Now in my book that is a pretty scientific and engineering approach and i think as a new member its propbaly a good idea to accept that some of the ham fisted twats on here have actually some experience and capability and might possibly be worthy of a little respect from the offing, especially as it happens, wolfie.
As a Masters degree accredited engineer I feel I have some insight into these things, but I do fully acknowledge your right to disagree. I am actually quite interested to know what the issue with Silicon and Petrol is especially given the nature of the current shite palmed off at us as green fuel.
So how about we examine that in good faith?

Re: Crankcase sealant

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:53 am
by Barrie
my remarks stand.
The ideals of a form is an exchange of information, the information is correct, and as said, if he does notlike it or want to follow it ,it's up to him.
I will not take open threats from him or any one else on this or any other forum FULL STOP!

Re: Crankcase sealant

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:15 am
by Rubbadub
he didnt actually threaten you, he just did some experiments about your theory (after you shouted at him twice.....bit arrogant there btw) and found that the theory did not stand up in the face of the empirical evidence and then asked you if you felt a bit of a prick,

Oh by the way I don't like being shouted at much either, but I would just point out that there is a more concise way of writing full stop, now which button was it?..................................

Re: Crankcase sealant

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:25 am
by Mitsui Spy
Hi Barrie.
As Rub said, all opinions are valued on here. From that point on they're fair game for discussion, approval or dismissal, usually under a jocular atmosphere.
Asserting an opinion without any evidence is neither helpful or professional, so please present some. Anecdotal experiences are of no value at all, I'm talking about manufacturer's data or experimental data.
Personally I'm not a fan of silicone but I do like to know the facts. It is very much in your interest to do so as otherwise your credability as a 'professional engineer' will inevitably be brought into question. Is that not fair and reasonable?

Re: Crankcase sealant

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:57 pm
by Barrie
I sent a data sheet straight to G.D at 9.30 this morning, seeing how a lot of you are doubting Thomas's, it took all of one minute to find.
Nothing I've said is opinion ,it's fact.

Re: Crankcase sealant

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:40 pm
by Mitsui Spy
Barrie wrote:I sent a data sheet straight to G.D at 9.30 this morning
Appreciated.

Re: Crankcase sealant

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:52 pm
by Rubbadub
so share,

Re: Crankcase sealant

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:07 pm
by Neil the Don
Do you know , it`s anatomically impossible for a Bumble Bee to fly ?
. According to our current accumulation of scientific knowledge ?

Maybe there`s more to things than we all really know / Hmm?? Heavy man !! ( Neil. Young Ones. )


( I`m currently experimenting with Bovril as a crankcase sealant. I will be publishing my a paper on my studies in due course. )

Re: Crankcase sealant

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:45 pm
by Rubbadub
urban myth, there is no mystery, I know because i listen to the Skeptics guide to the Universe and its great at exposing Urban Myths, for instant Mythros predating the story of Christ by 150 years but being the same is incorrect.
For pedants like your good self (an me) Its an entertaining and informative listen. :smt004

Re: Crankcase sealant

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:10 pm
by Neil the Don
so the Earth isn`t flat then ? :?

Re: Crankcase sealant

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:12 pm
by Rubbadub
the bit i,m standing on is.

Re: Crankcase sealant

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:35 pm
by mal71
I have found that eveyone has, and is entitled to an opinion. This is based on facts that they have to hand.

I think it is not "What" is said or typed but the "Manner" as to which that persons opinion is put across.

Barrie , we have had words in the past and you come across in a very strong way, this is your choice.

But that does not mean that people have to put up with it.

The majority of the people in this club are easy going and will go out of their way to help out another club member,

that is the way we are. There is no real need for calling fellow club members " Amatuer".

Re: Crankcase sealant

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:19 pm
by Lawman
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
Kin' El..."Hornets nest "and "stirred up a " spring to mind ...i only asked :lol: :roll:
Seriously .... the knowledgeable comments and the piss taking banter is what makes this club so special
Keep it up chaps and to some ...lighten up and enjoy it Thumbs Up
Thumbs Up
My bit of earth is flat aswell Neil !!

Re: Crankcase sealant

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:42 pm
by Rubbadub
must be a cylinder then lawman,

yeah you and your provocative silicon brandishing

Re: Crankcase sealant

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:51 pm
by Lawman
I shall... in future ask only questions of a non silicone related nature :oops:
Thankyou and good night :lol:

Re: Crankcase sealant

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:35 pm
by Neil the Don
What about Hornets ?? Are they allowed to fly then. ? :smt102


Ach, fek it mOre kYlie !!!!! :smt007

Re: Crankcase sealant

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:44 pm
by Lawman
I do not have authority to discuss the flying capabilities of said Hornet :P
so I shall pass that one over to persons more qualified than like what i am :wink:

Re: Crankcase sealant

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:04 am
by Rubbadub
evidence points to the conclusion that hornets fly.

I am with Tim Minchin, Opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one, but unlike arseholes they should be thoroughly investigated constantly and diligently.