Morning

garry,l · Post by **garry,l** » Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:23 pm

malc87 wrote:

Interesting choice of Safety footwear there Malc...

malc87 · Post by **malc87** » Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:45 pm

Thats my son in law!

Eric · Post by **Eric** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:26 am

Assume his recovery is going well

malc87 · Post by **malc87** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:42 am

Yes, Eric, apart from suffering from fatigue.
He is back at work as a postman on half days.
He has had all manner of tests at the hospital blood/lungs/heart etc etc and the consultants say there is no sign he has had COVID at all??
He has put his three stone back on and is going on a course at the hospital called "long Covid" ,
which is to try and gain more information on people who have had it bad and more so to try and help those that still have major problems for it.
He had two weeks off (holiday) which was why he was helping me.
He is back at work tomorrow.

Eric · Post by **Eric** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:54 am

H2R · Post by **H2R** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:33 am

Glad he's recovering well, albeit a bit fatigued.

Surprising that tests show he's not had Covid at all: makes you wonder whether all this testing is worth the bother.

Please pass on my best wishes

Stephen

TallyB · Post by **TallyB** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:31 pm

Great news Malc.

Post by **Triple Parts** » Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:28 am

Donna volunteered for the vaccine trials and had the first vaccine on Saturday. There is light at the end of the tunnel!

Olde Coney · Post by **Olde Coney** » Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:32 am

Good news indeed Malc, maybe the fact that test show no sign of Covid is an indication of his recovery

Post by **Triple Parts** » Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:38 am

The test is an antibody test, so anyone that has had it should show signs of antibodies. Strange that one!

Rubbadub · Post by **Rubbadub** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:07 pm

Not quite, you only produce the antibodies when your body thinks there is virus still present. What thee test should look for is T cells.
T cells are the "detectors" that detect virus and trigger your immune response that makes the antibodies. But of course the media cant be bothered to dive into it and learn the difference, so they never discuss that.

As long as he has T cell receptors for Covid 19 he'll be good.

Post by **Triple Parts** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:31 pm

Whatever they are looking for, the NHS call it an anti-bodies test, my wife works for them and has had plenty of them! She had the vaccine last week and will be tested again in a couple of weeks time to see if her body has developed the anti-bodies. She won't know though as it's all secret, she may even have the placebo.
They are saying now that the antibodies seem to be disappearing after a few months, so any vaccine that is developed may have to be an annual jab.

Olde Coney · Post by **Olde Coney** » Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:55 am

Tony_d123 wrote:Whatever they are looking for, the NHS call it an anti-bodies test, my wife works for them and has had plenty of them! She had the vaccine last week and will be tested again in a couple of weeks time to see if her body has developed the anti-bodies. She won't know though as it's all secret, she may even have the placebo.
They are saying now that the antibodies seem to be disappearing after a few months, so any vaccine that is developed may have to be an annual jab.

The bill for which should be sent to China .

Post by **Triple Parts** » Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:22 am

I went to a historical site in Cuba a few years ago, remains of an old native settlement. The natives didn't last long when the Spanish landed, all wiped out pretty quickly because they had no immunity to western diseases.
Glass houses springs to mind

Rubbadub · Post by **Rubbadub** » Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:13 am

T cell receptors aren't antibodies, there is no evidence to suggest that a lack of antibodies coincides with a loss of immunity, Sorry to be pedantic, but its an important distinction, the NHS measuring antibodies and rolling that out as proof that you have or havent had Covid is misleading and wrong. And they dont call the T cell tests antibody tests, they are two different things. Its on Talk radio right now as i type this.

Eric · Post by **Eric** » Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:16 pm

Olde Coney wrote:
Tony_d123 wrote:Whatever they are looking for, the NHS call it an anti-bodies test, my wife works for them and has had plenty of them! She had the vaccine last week and will be tested again in a couple of weeks time to see if her body has developed the anti-bodies. She won't know though as it's all secret, she may even have the placebo.
They are saying now that the antibodies seem to be disappearing after a few months, so any vaccine that is developed may have to be an annual jab.
The bill for which should be sent to China .

Totally agree

Post by **Triple Parts** » Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:45 pm

Rubbadub wrote:T cell receptors aren't antibodies, there is no evidence to suggest that a lack of antibodies coincides with a loss of immunity, Sorry to be pedantic.

Be as pedantic as you like, just stating what they are testing Donna for, I tend to switch off

But I don't think that it is a test for immunity anyway, but whether you currently have or have previously had Covid,

Post by **Triple Parts** » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:28 pm

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavir ... ronavirus/

TallyB · Post by **TallyB** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:30 pm

Don't have to do mornings now as I just retired. EARLY.

malc87 · Post by **malc87** » Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:05 am

Trouble with retirement is you have less free time!!

Eric · Post by **Eric** » Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:03 am

Agreed

malc87 · Post by **malc87** » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:14 am

As for dont have to do mornings Brendan Im worse than ever, was up at 5.45AM again today

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