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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:30 pm
by johnnymoped
Have you noticed though - where the handlebar risers are supposed to locate - there are light bulbs - one blue and one yellow :?:
Gonna take some work this one - pipes are off as are the heads. Looks like only one cylinder has been re-bored. Carbs are good except one poorly spring and one tickover rod missing :roll: Looks like it has been de-coked recently (In miles not years) Only one baffle is stuck - along with two of the cylinders. Tank is perfectly clean inside - not out though :lol:
Rims and forks are good - I though I saw somewhere on this site how to date the rims :?:
Speedo works - not sure about rev counter and the wiring has been 'modified' :?
Keep you updated.

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:33 pm
by malc87
You will find some stampings on each Rim, just say what they are on here and there is plenty of "anoraks" (myself included) :oops: who can date them :D

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:41 pm
by johnnymoped
Front rim has 0c rear either 3j or 8j is this what the codes are :?:

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:46 pm
by malc87
Johnnymoped wrote:Front rim has 0c rear either 3j or 8j is this what the codes are :?:
Front rim is march 1970 and probabley the correct one :D
rear rim is Oct 1973 or Oct 1978!!
It will be 1973 and is not the original one :(

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:48 pm
by johnnymoped
Oh no - more dodgey bits on it :cry:

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:56 am
by Neil the Don
Told ya Johnny , it`s a pile .

Will cause you madness and heartache.

I`ll up my offer from a "nice" KH250 to an S2 otr :P

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:59 am
by johnnymoped
I had an S2 not too long after the H1 - nice bike - when it ran :x

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:49 pm
by g6mow
Neil the Don wrote:Told ya Johnny , it`s a pile .

Will cause you madness and heartache.

I`ll up my offer from a "nice" KH250 to an S2 otr :P
Why would you want it Neil ?. Its a European model :wink: :D

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:07 pm
by johnnymoped
Has it got the correct back light on it?

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:11 pm
by robh1f
Not the "normal" one :? but have seen that back light on the Jap H1 dvd that I got from Keith 500 :D maybe it just for home market??? no doubt another anorak will let us know :lol: :lol:

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:47 am
by scouse
Johnnymoped wrote:Has it got the correct back light on it?
I am no expert, but, I have seen a UK spec 70 H1 advertised on ebay a few yrs ago with the same style back light, it was peacock grey in colour, this bike has been restored & was on the club stand at stafford in 2009, I seem to recall that the back light had been changed for the usual 69/70/71 one.
question is where would you get an early A1/A7/ W1 back light from & why?

I think it might be original

Gary T

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:30 am
by robh1f
Like I said Gary the Jap bike on the vid....it was a white 69 was a minter and had that back light so its looks as if they were fitted to the early bikes ....posso ANOTHER factory fxxk up ???? :roll: :roll:

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:10 am
by Neil the Don
Hardly a Fook-up.

Just good stock control. You often see early and late in the production models from Kawasaki using older or newer parts.

Probably when that "Kansai"/ just in time inventory control system they were taught by the Americans screwed up. No stock of the new tail light design for the new model. OK Lets not hold up the production line , use those old model ones , till the correct design arrives.
And at the end " Hmmmm , we have had less orders for this old model than forecast. So we have too many of the old speedo design. OK, just use some of them on the new model at first "

If you follow ?

Another example. I had a mfd 1974 S1 back from the States one time. It all added up to an S1-B. Speedo having different graduation markings from a C etc. Darnit, I even painted it green before checking the numbers to realise it was a very early C. With B parts fitted from new. ( And just ask Wolfie. He`s adamant his S1-C has had chromed headlamp ears from new. But every trainspotter will disagree........ :shock: )

Fact is. The Factory would fit whatever kept the production line going. They were mass produced units with an expected planned obsolesence factor . They didn`t expect us to be debating the widgets 40 yrs later !!!

Oh. btw Johhny. This S2 I`m offering for your nightmare bike ( Caw, take it of yer `ands mister. Scrap value :twisted: ) This S2 is garuanteed to run forever, and never break down !!!

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:11 am
by johnnymoped
Neil, don't think you would really want it - needs a re-bore and some other bits - :shock:
If you remember Neil we had a conversation about me buying / you supplying this exact model - the same as what I had in 1980. The crimson red rather than the orangey red you normally see.
I do need a battery strap, battery cover - front mudguard would be good and an mph speedo if anyone can help. :)

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:39 pm
by robh1f
Neil.....you took the words right out of my mouth....re the Factory way of using parts up !!...............any news on the points cam ????? NO pressure dude :)

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:27 pm
by SDG57

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:03 pm
by johnnymoped
I have now :wink: - thanks Stev & good to meet you today :D
What a cracking H1 you have - love it 8)

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:52 am
by johnnymoped
OK - this is haow far I have got with the '70 H1 so far.
Some shiney bits, some not so shiney bits, some professionaly cleaned bits (thanks Higgsy) - and the points cover. Thanks also to Rob and Clive too.

Front wheel will have to be re-spoked.
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Seat will be OK as is.

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Only painting the side panel - thanks Rob.

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Mudguards from Canada and USA

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Forks just cleaned up with new seals!

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Pipes cleaned.

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Bits.

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Good bottom end cleaned.

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A few more clean bits.

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Maybe on the road next year :?:

Still have the '73 D to sort though :(

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:28 pm
by scouse
interesting to see the seat strap, thought that was only on Japan only Red H1A?

Gary T

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:57 pm
by husson73
scouse wrote: thought that was only on Japan only Red H1A?

Gary T
but this one his a 70 Gary, japan red H1A is 71 with -oh surprise - H1A tank :lol: :wink:

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:08 pm
by scouse
husson73 wrote:
scouse wrote: thought that was only on Japan only Red H1A?

Gary T
but this one his a 70 Gary, japan red H1A is 71 with -oh surprise - H1A tank :lol: :wink:
maybe someone changed the tank? or the seat?

Gary T

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:19 pm
by robh1f
Thats gonna look WELL original.....you hoping to beat Andy Pretty for best original H1 or summit??? :) What did you pay for it to start with John as you got some nice parts there!