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2 Stroke Oil

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:48 pm
by SERPICO
Anyone know if this stuff is any good? :?

Comma TST5L 5L Two Wheel 2 Stroke Mineral Motor Oil

Re: 2 Stroke Oil

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:51 pm
by Charlie
It'll be OK for lawn mowers and chain saws, I would not use it in anything I actually cared about.

Probably on a par with what triples ran on 40 years ago when they used to seize up regularly.

Re: 2 Stroke Oil

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:00 pm
by Wolfie
Try it and let us know Serpico..

Then we can add it to our do's or don'ts list. Thumbs Up

Re: 2 Stroke Oil

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:24 pm
by Mark B
Some people say triples run better on old style 2 stroke :smt102

Re: 2 Stroke Oil

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:28 pm
by SAM
Asda do a good two stroke oil. Good price. :D

Re: 2 Stroke Oil

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:25 am
by Oddnedod
In an 'alls' all opinion what are the best 2 stroke oils to use nowadays in the Kawasaki triples?

Re: 2 Stroke Oil

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:12 pm
by Mitsui Spy
Oddnedod wrote:In an 'alls' all opinion what are the best 2 stroke oils to use nowadays in the Kawasaki triples?
It's far too subjective. You'll get a dozen different answers - every 2 stroke forum has been here many times. Just do a search. For the record I use 'Carlube' in my standard triples and Putoline synthetic in my newer stuff. I would neither recommend or deride either.

Re: 2 Stroke Oil

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:46 pm
by Wolfie
You can do the same search on any two Stroke Forum and find pages of all differing opinions.

Some people wouldn't dream of putting anything other than the most up to date and expensive stuff they can find in there.. Others who insist on the cheapest ( I fall in that (Carlube) camp too).

The only one to definitely avoid on your Triple is Silkolene, it has had several good supporters change camps when they found everything gummed up solid.
Triples don't burn hot enough for it.

Re: 2 Stroke Oil

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:57 pm
by Aardvark
I to use carlube 2 stroke oil. The Asda one is also fine, although I find it does give of more smoke than the Carlube oil.

Aardvark

Re: 2 Stroke Oil

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:58 pm
by SAM
Aardvark wrote:I to use carlube 2 stroke oil. The Asda one is also fine, although I find it does give of more smoke than the Carlube oil.

Aardvark
Now thats a good reason to buy Asda oil :D :D r

Re: 2 Stroke Oil

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:22 pm
by Nick64
I use Carlube.

Re: 2 Stroke Oil

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:07 pm
by Eric
Back in the day I used Castrol 2T and it left a smoke screen everywhere and ate plugs, now I use Putoline MX5 and it smokes very little and does not eat the plugs. Thumbs Up

Re: 2 Stroke Oil

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:11 pm
by blackhat400
Yeh "carlube is the dogs, I did paris and home ,,no probs on the H2,,, Tartan ran fully synth, and had the barrels off more time"s than he changed his drawers :lol:

I think Asda"s is carlube [ bottled in Lancashire] Thumbs Up

As for chainsaws , is there a harder working 2 stroke engine, Pro wood cutters run them flat out ALL day, :roll:

Re: 2 Stroke Oil

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:27 pm
by Turkish
blackhat400 wrote:Yeh "carlube is the dogs, I did paris and home ,,no probs on the H2,,, Tartan ran fully synth, and had the barrels off more time"s than he changed his drawers :lol:

I think Asda"s is carlube [ bottled in Lancashire] Thumbs Up

As for chainsaws , is there a harder working 2 stroke engine, Pro wood cutters run them flat out ALL day, :roll:
Haha say it like it is Blackie :lol:

Re: 2 Stroke Oil

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:33 am
by SAM
Eric wrote:Back in the day I used Castrol 2T and it left a smoke screen everywhere and ate plugs, now I use Putoline MX5 and it smokes very little and does not eat the plugs. Thumbs Up
No Smoke :(

Re: 2 Stroke Oil

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:04 am
by Eric
I`m an environmentalist. :wink:

Re: 2 Stroke Oil

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:05 am
by SERPICO
When you say Carlube I take it you mean the mineral based one I've seen in Sainsburys, not the semi or fully synthetic stuff they do but which I haven't seen anywhere.

http://www.carlube.co.uk/2-stroke-oil

Re: 2 Stroke Oil

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 6:28 pm
by Chris Todd
It seems as long as it meets the jaso spec it's ok for our old ladies maybe prof Mitsui will have something to offer!!
http://www.oilspecifications.org/jaso.php
ASDA JASO FB
CASTROL SCOOTER JASO FD
CASTROL RACING FULLY SYNTH JASO FD
Sure I read a post a while back that Castrol recommends scooter oil for older 2 strokes :shock:

Re: 2 Stroke Oil

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 6:57 pm
by H1Mark
I am using Motorex Cross Power 2T Fully Synthetic Low Smoke in my H1 500D & find it ok :D

Re: 2 Stroke Oil

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:04 am
by scouse
Dunno what I use, but it's free from a breakers :lol:

I have bought 1 bottles of 2 stroke in the last 20 yrs

That was only cos I got caught short once

Gary T

Re: 2 Stroke Oil

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:11 am
by johnnymoped
scouse wrote:Dunno what I use, but it's free from a breakers :lol:

I have bought 1 bottles of 2 stroke in the last 20 yrs

That was only cos I got caught short once

Gary T
I know the story Gary - but it makes it sound like you needed the bottle just to wee into :lol:

Re: 2 Stroke Oil

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 9:35 am
by Mitsui Spy
Chris Todd wrote: maybe prof Mitsui will have something to offer!!
It's funny you should mention that. As it happens I am peer reviewing an academic paper from Dr. Miles Davis of Unified Nano-Technology, Nova Scotia. There's quite a flutter over there due to a snow-mobile engine that's been running WITHOUT 2 stroke oil for a couple of months. Some time ago at IMAC (Institute Mechanique, Alberta, Canada) a researcher was attempting to find a lubricant to meet the exacting demands of the micro-processor industry, enabling heated components in the clinical manufacturing process to be lubricated in a way that would not contaminate the highly sensitive materials. After exhaustive trials the only substance that both lubricated and 'burned' residue-free was found to be a very particular type of sebum. The refined sebum has a very high boiling point but at which it takes on a weird dual-state -it vapourises internally with little expansion whilst maintaining a surface tension envelope that retains the vapour. It is currently used in Silicon Valley and has allowed the manfacturing process to run faster and more reliably. It turned out that the researcher's fiancé (Dr. Davis) was working on a project funded by a major snow-mobile manufacturer. He tried the refined sebum oil in the engine and it performed amazingly, still effective at ratios of over 500:1. What's more, they found it continued to lubricate the cylinder when followed by neat petrol (although not the con-rod bearings which burned out). Microscopic examination revealed that the compound sebum molecules adhere to the collections of carbon atoms at the grain boundaries of the cast iron cylinder liner and stay there as permanent lubrication. The twin cylinder snow-mobile engine has been redesigned with hydrodynamic closed-loop pressure fed crank and rod bearings that release no oil into the crankcase and has now been running 100% 2-stroke oil free under arduous conditions for 2 months. Exhaust emmissions are similar to a current 4 stroke. At present the technology is not commercially viable due to the expense of the base product but they are working on a synthetic version. The source of this remarkable sebum derivative? Newfoundland dog fur!!