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Italians trying to kill off two stokes
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 1:22 pm
by Barrie
Just read this article about the Italians trying to stop the use of Vespa's
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ution.html
Re: Italians trying to kill off two stokes
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 6:21 pm
by Treeman
Our scumbag Government will be looking at the results of this closely

Re: Italians trying to kill off two stokes
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 8:28 pm
by Barrie
Treeman wrote:Our scumbag Government will be looking at the results of this closely

Oh yes
Re: Italians trying to kill off two stokes
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 6:22 am
by Nick64
Already have for London - in 2020 the ULEZ comes into force - Ultra Low Emission Zone. So motorcycles manufactured before July 2007 will pay £12.50 per day to enter the zone - with the exception of vehicles with a "historic" tax class.
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra- ... ssion-zone
Re: Italians trying to kill off two stokes
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:47 am
by Barrie
Nick64 wrote:Already have for London - in 2020 the ULEZ comes into force - Ultra Low Emission Zone. So motorcycles manufactured before July 2007 will pay £12.50 per day to enter the zone - with the exception of vehicles with a "historic" tax class.
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra- ... ssion-zone
Well , my three are all Historic , not that I ride in London much these days, and this Zone is only going to be a very small area of central London .
The main problem to date has been that people with older diesel vehicles who live in the low emission zone which is much larger area than this new zone have been forced to get rid of their vehicles, or pay a very heavy daily levy
Re: Italians trying to kill off two stokes
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 11:06 am
by Rubbadub
move to somewhere nice
Re: Italians trying to kill off two stokes
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:06 pm
by Treeman
Time to grow a beard and join The Motorcycle Action Group I think - they do a lot for us you know....the aquaduct, sanitation, wine,...
Take a look at the other people next time you go to an autojumble etc. (especially Kempton Park

) - motorcyclists are getting older and not being replaced to any extent by a younger generation (too much hassle to take the tests etc.) - we are being 'phased out' chaps - a long term Government strategy that they are using on various things - people don't tend to notice when it is a 'drip, drip' long term strategy

Re: Italians trying to kill off two stokes
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:25 pm
by SAM
Treeman wrote:Time to grow a beard and join The Motorcycle Action Group I think - they do a lot for us you know....the aquaduct, sanitation, wine,...
Take a look at the other people next time you go to an autojumble etc. (especially Kempton Park

) - motorcyclists are getting older and not being replaced to any extent by a younger generation (too much hassle to take the tests etc.) - we are being 'phased out' chaps - a long term Government strategy that they are using on various things - people don't tend to notice when it is a 'drip, drip' long term strategy

Yes at 60 it makes me feel young amongst many of them!!

Re: Italians trying to kill off two stokes
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 9:44 am
by husson73
As the government is unable to reduce unemployement, to give us security and justice, he found new gimmicks for us: road security with stupid speed limits, pollution and have made restrictiv laws about those just for control us.
If the government, from whatsoever country, has spent the same energy and money against the muslim terrorists that he has spent on speed limits violation or so call pollute violations, live would have been better for us.

Re: Italians trying to kill off two stokes
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 12:25 pm
by Barrie
husson73 wrote:As the government is unable to reduce unemployement, to give us security and justice, he found new gimmicks for us: road security with stupid speed limits, pollution and have made restrictiv laws about those just for control us.
If the government, from whatsoever country, has spent the same energy and money against the muslim terrorists that he has spent on speed limits violation or so call pollute violations, live would have been better for us.

+1
Re: Italians trying to kill off two stokes
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 1:06 pm
by Aardvark
I don't think the government are trying to phase us out, it is just that youngers are not able to text whilst riding a motorcycle.
They can drive and do it at work all day long. But the motorcycle is just to restrictive for them.
Re: Italians trying to kill off two stokes
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:19 pm
by husson73
Re: Italians trying to kill off two stokes
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:19 pm
by Treeman
I honestly saw someone riding a scooter and texting (or possibly just reading one - I am not sure) only last week. Some kind of fast food delivery man

Re: Italians trying to kill off two stokes
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:20 pm
by Nick64
Treeman wrote:I honestly saw someone riding a scooter and texting (or possibly just reading one - I am not sure) only last week. Some kind of fast food delivery man

+1 seen it fairly often in London - always fast food deliver(oo)
Re: Italians trying to kill off two stokes
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:14 am
by Hal
Nick64 wrote:Treeman wrote:I honestly saw someone riding a scooter and texting (or possibly just reading one - I am not sure) only last week. Some kind of fast food delivery man

+1 seen it fairly often in London - always fast food deliver(oo)
It could be them using google maps or tom tom to find the delivery address maybe?
Re: Italians trying to kill off two stokes
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:43 am
by Chris Todd
I think it is inevitable that 2strokes will be legislated off the road it is a done technology and lets face it are not environment friendly.we may have no choice because of the ever increasing ethanol content of fuel E10 already in the pipeline eating the crank seals.will probably be only allowed to run them at organised events using uber expensive fuel (aspen) 18 quid a gallon.having said all that we will be too old and fu**ed to start em

Re: Italians trying to kill off two stokes
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:38 pm
by husson73
Chris Todd wrote:I think it is inevitable that 2strokes will be legislated off the road it is a done technology and lets face it are not environment friendly.we may have no choice because of the ever increasing ethanol content of fuel E10 already in the pipeline eating the crank seals.will probably be only allowed to run them at organised events using uber expensive fuel (aspen) 18 quid a gallon.having said all that we will be too old and fu**ed to start em

they don't banned two stroke but any vehicules registred before a date.
And I think we will ride w/o issue until the end as we would get crank seal which support fuel with ethanol.