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MOT EXEMPTION

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:52 pm
by BIG H
Vehicles over 40 years old are to be exempt from MOT testing.
https://www.gov.uk/government/consultat ... c-interest

Re: MOT EXEMPTION

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:15 pm
by kas750
Just saw that on FB..From when?

Re: MOT EXEMPTION

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:41 pm
by Barrie
20th of May '18.
, so I only have one more MOT on one vehicle in December ,then all my fleet are exempt

Re: MOT EXEMPTION

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:06 pm
by 666rog
Good, they won't be able to moan about the 666 loud pipes any more.

Re: MOT EXEMPTION

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:48 pm
by malc87
Unless they have been substantially altered ROG :shock:
I will give them a ring and tell them what you did to a UK H1D (one of only 20+ imported) :D Thumbs Up

Re: MOT EXEMPTION

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:49 pm
by Mitsui Spy
Fail to see the logic in this. Just had an old campervan (1974) in for MOT. It must have had a couple of bent tests previously because there's no way it could have passed last year. Needs 2 - 3 grands worth of welding. One chassis leg needs completely replacing. This pile of crap could still be on the road without inspection under this new system. There's still old bangers out there - they're not all pristine classics.

My own bikes NEED an MOT once a year - it's the only time I service them.

Re: MOT EXEMPTION

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:34 pm
by Nick64
There's no change to law as regards roadworthiness.

The risk assessment the Government did accepted that this reduction in MOT testing could increase road casualties by 2 seriously injured or killed per year. They thought that the majority of classic vehicle owners were responsible people who looked after their cherished machines and only rode or drove them short distances to shows or to the MOT station.

The MOT can be absolute crap - my Kawa GT750 passed for 2 years having had a swinging arm repaired with car body filler (Previous owners work and I only found it when touching up some other rust! I replaced it asap as I didn't want to find out its structural strngth the hard way).

You can still have your bike MOT'd on a voluntary basis if you want that 2nd pair of eyes or independant inspection.

You might find that buyers will want an MOT though.

At my last MOT the tester verified it was the correct bike, "a lovely one just like he had back in the day", it's mileage and that it had a front and back wheel.

On the other hand a few years back I took my car to Halfrauds for a service and MOT. They did the service and then failed the car on seat belts as the rear seat middle belt was tucked under the cushion. Twats. It then passed when I lifted the cushion up and pulled the belt out. (they weren't, they said, allowed to do that?)

Re: MOT EXEMPTION

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:17 am
by Mitsui Spy
Nick64 wrote: You can still have your bike MOT'd on a voluntary basis if you want that 2nd pair of eyes or independant inspection.
Err....hello.....I'm a Yorkshireman. :lol:

Re: MOT EXEMPTION

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:22 am
by Neil the Don
Mitsui Spy wrote:Fail to see the logic in this. Just had an old campervan (1974) in for MOT. It must have had a couple of bent tests previously because there's no way it could have passed last year. Needs 2 - 3 grands worth of welding. One chassis leg needs completely replacing. This pile of crap could still be on the road without inspection under this new system. There's still old bangers out there - they're not all pristine classics.

My own bikes NEED an MOT once a year - it's the only time I service them.
EEH Lad, tha's reet picky !!

Re: MOT EXEMPTION

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:15 pm
by Mitsui Spy
Oh I'm not complaining - it suits me fine, I just can't see the motivation for it from their side. I can only assume that the law makers have a significant collection of classic vehicles between them.

Re: MOT EXEMPTION

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:31 am
by Neil the Don
Mitsui Spy wrote:Oh I'm not complaining - it suits me fine, I just can't see the motivation for it from their side. I can only assume that the law makers have a significant collection of classic vehicles between them.
Oh I agree. There`ll be some TERIBLE condition of bikes out there if/when this comes in !!!

Re: MOT EXEMPTION

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:57 am
by Barrie
Well, maybe they will start doing roadside inspections,
It's only going to take a couple of fatalities and a few accident investigations with proof that the vehicles involved weren't up to the required standard and we could all be off the road for good!
The original legislation came from the "European Parliament " , it is only being implemented by the British Govenment

Re: MOT EXEMPTION

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 4:41 pm
by Neil the Don
Barrie wrote:Well, maybe they will start doing roadside inspections,
It's only going to take a couple of fatalities and a few accident investigations with proof that the vehicles involved were up to the required standard and we could all be off the road for good!
The original legislation came from the "European Parliament " , it is only being implemented by the British Govenment
i vaguely understand that " Historic " vehicles in some European Countries are technically only allowed on the road, to travel to pre-arranged classic events. ?? Rather than , again , technically, be used for everyday transport.

That`s not a route we want to go down !!

However , on the bright side. as our Historics are motorcycles, we are more likely to be the victim of a road traffic accident . And as long as our numbers go into their computer system ok , I doubt they`ll be checking our brake light works !!

Re: MOT EXEMPTION

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:01 am
by Treeman
i vaguely understand that " Historic " vehicles in some European Countries are technically only allowed on the road, to travel to pre-arranged classic events. ?? Rather than , again , technically, be used for everyday transport.

That`s not a route we want to go down !!

I was trying to think what advantage there would be to the government in actually 'giving' us something. The above sort of thing crossed my mind but I was not aware that it was already happening in some places. Bet your bottom dollar that this is their long term aim :evil:

Re: MOT EXEMPTION

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:06 pm
by Neil the Don
Treeman wrote:i vaguely understand that " Historic " vehicles in some European Countries are technically only allowed on the road, to travel to pre-arranged classic events. ?? Rather than , again , technically, be used for everyday transport.

That`s not a route we want to go down !!

I was trying to think what advantage there would be to the government in actually 'giving' us something. The above sort of thing crossed my mind but I was not aware that it was already happening in some places. Bet your bottom dollar that this is their long term aim :evil:

It might well be an Insurance restriction . ? Whatever/However/Whyever it`s not a good thing !!

Re: MOT EXEMPTION

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:56 am
by Tartan Triple
mot is only as good as the tester,I bought a 74 beetle with full mot,no advisories,the owner was the tester,broken drivers seat,no headlights,no washers,no horn,fecked wipers,insecure battery,insecure bumpers,binding bakes,indicators not working,no demisters, feckin joke,DVSA informed!!

Re: MOT EXEMPTION

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:13 am
by Olde Coney
Northern Ireland (NI Direct) M.O.T testing is very vigorous and extremely professional Thumbs Up

Re: MOT EXEMPTION

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:50 am
by Neil the Don
Tartan Triple wrote:mot is only as good as the tester,I bought a 74 beetle with full mot,no advisories,the owner was the tester,broken drivers seat,no headlights,no washers,no horn,fecked wipers,insecure battery,insecure bumpers,binding bakes,indicators not working,no demisters, feckin joke,DVSA informed!!
What ? Did you buy on a picture on E Bay ?!!

Re: MOT EXEMPTION

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:37 pm
by husson73
Treeman wrote:i vaguely understand that " Historic " vehicles in some European Countries are technically only allowed on the road, to travel to pre-arranged classic events. ?? Rather than , again , technically, be used for everyday transport.

That`s not a route we want to go down !!

I :
was the case on the 20th century but not now.
Half of the frenchs on the last Southern came with triples with historic titles and I use daily and legaly my only triple with historic tittle as historic vehicules are alowed to run daily in Paris w/o restrictions. I use also illegaly my other triples inside Paris :P :P :P
no MOT anyway for motorcycles in my country :mrgreen:

Re: MOT EXEMPTION

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:29 pm
by Doctorpayday
What happens to imported 40 year old bikes awaiting first MOT prior to first registration?


Just a thought

Doc

Re: MOT EXEMPTION

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:36 pm
by Barrie
They probably still need to go for a test , they are not registered ,so are not a historic vehicle :roll:
Also they probably need to have a the numbers checked / corroborated

Re: MOT EXEMPTION

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:39 pm
by SERPICO
Just got this reply from The Ministry.

It is already the case that the owner of an exempted vehicle may submit it for a voluntary MoT. Cars constructed or first registered before 1960 are already exempt from MoTs and some owners do submit their vehicles for a voluntary test. This will continue after next May, when vehicles over 40 years old are exempt.