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As of May this year Historic vehicles wont require a valid MOT, but beware.The only thing about the MOT is if you have an accident the insurance will use it as an excuse to hold back from paying out, I have heard several stories from boys with pre 1960's vehicles and the first thing the insurance asks is do you have a valid MOT even though it is not required by law, I now have 3 bikes that don't require an MOT shortly and due to the amount of money tied up in them I think it would be prudent to get them MOT ed as then there are no arguments about them being roadworthy. As you know insurance companies will do anything to avoid paying out, how many old rusty land rovers and ex farm vehicles that haven't been on the road for 15 years do you think are going to get pulled out and taxed, the insurance companies will not differentiate between these and a motor cycle that has been pampered. There is also the bike that has had a lot of money spent on it and looks good but has been put together by someone whose Engineering skills are maybe not as good as they think, think of the bikes you have bought that look good and when you look close they are death traps.

Typical interweb scaremongering I think. If a policy was invalidated it would only be because it is an offence to ride without a valid MOT, but you can already ride to and from a pre-arranged MOT test without one. No MOT would never totally invalidate your insurance as they cannot avoid their third party obligations, and anyway an MOT only proves a bike is roadworthy on the day of the MOT test. Sometimes not even on the day!

The insurance company may stipulate that your bike is kept in a roadworthy condition, although my policy does not. Generally if you make a claim where roadworthiness an issue, then they would rely on engineer reports and other evidence from the claims investigation rather than an MOT which could be almost a year old. Typically if you make a claim without MOT they may reduce the value by a small percentage, as a bike without an MOT is theoretically worth less, although this is also argueable if an MOT is not required

In the words of Corporal Jones, don't panic, don't panic!

Looks like it ain't for happening in Northern Ireland.
I have written to Dft{NI} for clarification bet that gets a slow response

Exemption From The Exemption – Northern Ireland

The consultation and the enactment of the exemption was through the Department for Transport (DfT). The DfT is the government department responsible for the English transport network and a limited number of transport matters in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland that have not been devolved.

The consultation itself stated, “The proposals in this consultation apply to Great Britain (given as vehicle testing is a devolved matter in Northern Ireland). Northern Ireland will develop its own proposals for implementation of the Directive.”

Any enthusiastic celebratory responses in Northern Ireland will have to be curbed for the present.

Although the DfI (NI) have launched a Consultation on the implementation of European Directive 014/45/EU in respect of vehicle testing legislation it does not include the 40 year rolling MoT exemption but deals with removing exemptions for certain vehicles, modification of existing provisions for the testing of fast tractors, creation of new exemptions (not motorcycles), introduction of a 60 day limit for the carrying out of retests following failure to pass a periodic vehicle test, technical testing method and reason for failure.

We look forward to the Northern Ireland department responsible for the MoT, Department for Infrastructure (DfI) launching a consultation as they previously did, in 2012 with the decision then to mirror the rest of the UK exemption for motorcycles and light goods vehicles manufactured or registered before 1960.

Exemption will not apply to northern Ireland for a while yet.
got clarification from department of transport yesterday.
mind you our Mot's are only £20

So if you have a bike that’s been imported and registered in the last 40 years then it needs an MOT ?

Eric wrote:If it`s tax exempt it`s MOT exempt

I can confirm this as I've just 'taxed' my A7 Avenger using the online system - without an MOT

Pete

Just done
H2
Z1
S3
on line without MOT.

hooray!! should be legal again soon then as both mine are on sorn with no mot and waiting for the mot exemption to kick in

Yep just done my h1’s real easy dvla website quite shocking they made it that simple

mine are already taxed but mot runs out today declaration form says to submit when taxing vehicle form .so do I assume I need to do nothing till tax is due again?

Chris Todd wrote:mine are already taxed but mot runs out today declaration form says to submit when taxing vehicle form .so do I assume I need to do nothing till tax is due again?

Hi Chris , I just did some of mine , some were historically taxed already and no problems just had to tick the declaration box to say they were NOT substantially modified , it backdated the tax to the 1st May and just gave me a note that they were already taxed but that was fine .

Got a few to take to the post office because I haven’t registered them as historic Tax yet so it only worked on those that were


BTW some of mine had not been MOT’d for quite a few years but they still accepted them all, so now all MOT and TAX free

Of the two options available for the Mot part of the online form, which one is the correct option, the top one?
My bike shows as taxed but no details shown for the mot?,it does however suggest it can take upto 5 days
Rich

Will try to tax my Gilera moped and UK S3A. Both been off road since 1982! @ post office.

both done,simples

SAM wrote:Will try to tax my Gilera moped and UK S3A. Both been off road since 1982! @ post office.

Yep both taxed

Just renewed my " tax " online for the 72 S1.

She is still mot`d until 5th July. So it went through without addressing the " no mot " issue.

( Although I would contend that DVLa will take your tax money on ANY vehicle. Mot or no MOt. They will also take a double payment if you were to accidentally pay it twice . Then it`s up to you to notice and claim it back. Which was easy when you had two tax discs, but now,......!! )

So , I cannot see anyway to change my mot status to " Not required ".

Guess I`ll wait till it runs out and see what happens ?

Gra sorned the 400 had to go to the Post office to re tax wouldn't let me do it online gave me the tax so I assume this wouldn't have happened if I needed a mot? I have been told they automatically become exempt from 20th of May

just removed two bikes off sorn and taxed them both using dvla automated telephone service
MOT not required on both, (unless modified)
both bikes listed as historic on V5
easy

Just taxed my S2 on line no MOT as exempt