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Interesting mirror
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:53 pm
by g6mow
Re: Interesting mirror
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:04 pm
by robh1f
So a "flag" mirror.....but looks engraved not stamped. Any idea what model it was from.....gotta be really early ???
Re: Interesting mirror
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:41 pm
by malc87
Looks like a standard early mirror that fits quite a few models that is usually plain but he has removed the blue protector and had it engraved.

Re: Interesting mirror
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 6:35 pm
by Klawsuc
Don't think it is an original kawasaki mirror. There were copies made in the 60's and 70's and there are repros made now. This one is probably lazer etched.
Phil
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-70s-Toyo-J ... 4447829378
Re: Interesting mirror
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:06 pm
by robh1f
Will wait for Ralf to have some more repops made then......
Re: Interesting mirror
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:56 pm
by husson73
original miror from the 60s and from mother Kawa came, at least for 69 H1, with the old kawasaki flag engraved.
Re: Interesting mirror
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:11 pm
by Eric
Engraved or stamped that is the question
Re: Interesting mirror
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:59 pm
by robh1f
So thinking....smugly, I will look at April 1969 Cycle World magazine road test and see what mirror is on test model......no mirror on test bike

But further on in that issue is a mini test on 90cc G3SS.....with a mirror....with a flag.....which looks etched ????

I shall ask RB....

Re: Interesting mirror
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:06 pm
by robh1f
So thinking....smugly, I will look at April 1969 Cycle World magazine road test and see what mirror is on test model......no mirror on test bike

But further on in that issue is a mini test on 90cc G3SS.....with a mirror....with a flag.....which looks etched ????

I shall ask RB....

Re: Interesting mirror
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:07 pm
by robh1f
Awaiting reply......watch this space......
Re: Interesting mirror
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:56 pm
by robh1f
Got a reply....all early mirrors up to EARLY 1969 had the flag logo stamped not engraved on. He says it could be JPs interpretation of engraved and embossed that is getting in the way ?? Any how after looking at that mirror again its got the wrong method of clamping at the top....it should be done with a clamp around the arm with a stud from the head and a dome headed nut to secure

. Malc......stick a piccie of your one on mate ???
Re: Interesting mirror
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:53 pm
by malc87
Ive got two

Pics tomorrow
Re: Interesting mirror
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:12 am
by Akashi Classics
I've got 3 'flag' mirrors, 2 on my 1970 B1L-A125; 1 on my 1973 GA5-A100; all
stamped and clamped. There's another (4th) that I've not seen on any other bike. It's on my 1967 G1-L90 ... and is
rectangular,
stamped, but
not clamped.
B1L-A125.jpeg
GA5-A100.jpeg
G1-L90.jpeg
Re: Interesting mirror
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:14 am
by husson73
will have a look at the one on my 69 H1 (not on the bike cause it's very rare) but still thinking the flad was engraved I will see.
Re: Interesting mirror
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:13 pm
by El Presidente
Sorry boys, I missed this post, so, the box is a new style box which would immediately arouse suspicions. ALL Mirrors were embossed / stamped and this style was fitted until sometime around January 1969. It looks to me that this mirror has been laser etched to produce the flag.
The mirrors with the screw fixing were on the earlier A series (and others) models.
The H1's (less than the first 1,500 units) had a head that was bolted on.
"Barney" as you see in my video, has the correct flag and the head was bolted on . .. . well, until it came loose it was, it flew off on a freeway and after 4 hours of searching I never found it
I then bought a genuine A1 version for $200! But Barney is a rust bucket and a spangly new mirror would just look SO out of place! So when I left Florida for Michigan last Year I put my new mirror on a bucket in a shed, I sprinkled it with salt and hoped that the humidity would rapidly rust and age the new mirror.
When I returned in November I eagerly rushed to see how my experiment had worked . . . . .. . . . Only to find that the salt had "pooled" on the flag and had obliterated it and almost rusted it through the metal

Re: Interesting mirror
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:37 pm
by malc87
I was riding "Barney" when the mirror fell off.
You werent with us as me Kenny and Al had gone out on our own as you had "business" to attend to.
We managed to get to Empire and then set off for Fishtown and ended up at some golf club in the other direction!!
We found barneys mirror (unbroken

) and I brought it all back to you.
You had an early Samurai or Avenger at the house and took the mirror off that to use on barney.
First picture is us all going, you as well, out and Barney has a mirror in 2017
Second pictures is the bikes me Al and Kenny went out on.
Its after the ride and barney has no mirror.
Third picture is 2018 and Barney has a mirror again, Im guessing the one off the Samurai/Avenger.

Re: Interesting mirror
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:11 pm
by malc87
The mirror on my 250 Meguro
It came with the bike

Re: Interesting mirror
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:13 pm
by malc87
The mirror I use on my 69H1.
I bought this off ebay for $100.
It was listed wrong so few people seen it.

Re: Interesting mirror
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:07 pm
by El Presidente
Thanks for those photos Malc - HAPPY DAYS!!!
I just took a photo, this is 8 months of neat, big chunk Sea Salt on an almost flawess mirror, just the One application and the Florida humidity did this

I see in fact that it now has a bloody rust hole! Maybe I would have been better to have used regular salt . . . . . . Oh, the search for accurate 'patina" is long and fraught with let downs
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Re: Interesting mirror
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:08 pm
by malc87
WOW

You certainly fooked that!!
Re: Interesting mirror
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:30 pm
by Mitsui Spy
malc87 wrote:WOW

You certainly fooked that!!
Result! Doesn't look at all out of place

Re: Interesting mirror
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:37 pm
by robh1f
WOW .....always thought the heads were pressed stainless......they always seem to survive really well ???.......until you cover them in salt .....ffsakes....
