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69/70 rear mudguards

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 11:16 am
by robh1f
Just been browsing thru some old kawasaki triples club newsletters from the US and saw an answer from Tripleman saying there was a difference between the H1 69/70 rear fenders. I have an idea what it maybe but someone here must know for sure??? BTW anyone know who Tripleman was back then.....I suspect RB ??!!

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 11:41 am
by H2Nick
Rob - is it like the difference between Rocking Horse poo & Unobtainium ?

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:36 pm
by Smokie
Hmmm? :roll: - I think the only detail between the 69 H1 & 70/71 H1.s early stainless Steel Rear Fenders was that the 69 H1 ones had no hole with a little grommet in the fender - It gets hidden by the Number Plate.

Ta Ta - Keith :D

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:35 pm
by husson73
Smokie wrote:Hmmm? :roll: - I think the only detail between the 69 H1 & 70/71 H1.s early stainless Steel Rear Fenders was that the 69 H1 ones had no hole with a little grommet in the fender - It gets hidden by the Number Plate.

Ta Ta - Keith :D
+1 Keith is right as usual, there is also two types: short US and longer (just a little) euro model on earlies H1 69 to 72.

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:04 pm
by robh1f
Thanks for that guys.......now where do I find a fender WITHOUT the hole got 5 with!!!!

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:04 am
by scouse
cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-h1-rear-fender-750-triple-h1-kawasaki-500-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem35ab970baaQQitemZ230512069546QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 12:12 pm
by H2Nick
Rob

I suggest you spunk the $75 for the one Scouse found on ebay.

This is yours :
(there is a rubber grommet below the 3 holes in a triangular shape)

Image

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:13 pm
by Olde Coney
well they say a picture speaks a thousands words, I guess that one speaks about 20 thou, judging by the size of it :lol:

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:27 pm
by Eric
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:02 am
by H2Nick
Yep - maybe I didn't resize it quite right...

On the bright side - you should be able to clearly see all the holes & suss what mudguard it is Rob !

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:13 pm
by robh1f
Thanks Nick and Cheers Scouse just took a look at that fender on eBay US........it has the hole with grommet in!! Mmmmmm lets see what Bretty has in the next container!!!

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:01 pm
by scouse
OK guys
I have just checked my 69 and the rear guard has a hole in it for the grommet

Also have another rear guard marked up 69 h1 and that also has a hole and a grommet

mine is a late 69, so maybe it was the early ones that did not have the hole?

my bike is very original, wheel rims, shocks, seat, maybe it has had a rear smash?

who knows ?

Gary T

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:15 pm
by robh1f
Was looking at an EARLY 69 on Ebay frame no 1354.......yep its gotta hole and grommet on rear fender! BTY Gary what is your frame no......just being nosey! Cheers Rob.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:20 pm
by scouse
frame no. 05090
engine no. 04780

cheers

Gary T

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:46 pm
by robh1f
Sound ,mine is KAF 04210 so it would have had a grommet....yippee don't have to buy ANOTHER one. Now onto the US vs UK length thang! I am building a red 70 with a NOS rear guard bought in UK so will measure against a known US one......JUST to be sure the UK H1a I have had for 25 years and now at Mums has a NOS rear guard that I know will be UK spec cos I bought it NEW back in the late 70's from Daytona in Ruislip....think it cost around £20!!!!!

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:01 pm
by scouse
robh1f wrote:Sound ,mine is KAF 04210 so it would have had a grommet....yippee don't have to buy ANOTHER one. Now onto the US vs UK length thang! I am building a red 70 with a NOS rear guard bought in UK so will measure against a known US one......JUST to be sure the UK H1a I have had for 25 years and now at Mums has a NOS rear guard that I know will be UK spec cos I bought it NEW back in the late 70's from Daytona in Ruislip....think it cost around £20!!!!!
cool, I have 2 UK H1A's both with long guards and a UK H1B with a long guard

my 69 is from the US, but I might just fit a UK long guard :wink:

Gary T

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:29 am
by husson73
us shorter guard is nicer Scouse 8)

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:14 pm
by robh1f
Right done some measuring and ALL of my rear guards are 7 and 1/2 inch from last mounting hole to end of guard in a sraight line so am guessing all are US as Nicks h1b is US and same . Will have to wait to go to mums to do the UK one....it can't be that much longer can it??? AND it has hole for rear reflector if I recall???!! Gary getting a bit anal now but what date codes are your rims?? I know I'm a sad barst so slap me at the Southern.

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:35 pm
by scouse
will have a look and get back to you, I know they both end in a 9 8)

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:21 pm
by robh1f
Yep so do mine!!!!..........and they are off a 70, 25th built I'll have you know....wish the 69 was !