KH 500

crispyduck · Post by **crispyduck** » Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:15 pm

I am on the look out for a KH 500 and saw this for sale...........am thinking this may be a step too far for my restoration skills ???

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1976-Kawasak ... 4902.l9144

g6mow · Post by **g6mow** » Sun Jan 10, 2021 5:09 pm

Doesn’t look a bad project. Shame it’s missing the air box.
As with anything from D&K it needs to be viewed.

crispyduck · Post by **crispyduck** » Sun Jan 10, 2021 5:17 pm

g6mow wrote:Doesn’t look a bad project. Shame it’s missing the air box.
As with anything from D&K it needs to be viewed.

I have to agree !
And now is wrong time to be viewing

Chris Todd · Post by **Chris Todd** » Mon Jan 11, 2021 4:39 pm

Nothing a bucket full of cash wouldn't sort probably cheaper to buy one already done

crispyduck · Post by **crispyduck** » Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:30 pm

Chris Todd wrote:Nothing a bucket full of cash wouldn't sort probably cheaper to buy one already done

Thats what i was thinking.................anything available at the moment ????

Antarctic Boy · Post by **Antarctic Boy** » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:36 pm

There is this one for sale on Car and Classic
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1302647
Looks to be pretty original and all there and says he's "testing the water", not used for 16 years means plenty to do for sure. I bought a "pretty" ornament that had been owned for a long time but not used and it cost a lot of time and money to get it fully sorted. But that US import went for well over 4k didn't it - this one appears to have standard air box and the pipes look pretty good.

Good luck a fully sorted KH500 hard to beat in my humble opinion, all the looks, noise, smell and reputation in a reliable and easy to live with package.

Aardvark · Post by **Aardvark** » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:03 pm

£7500 excessive in my view, wrong fork ears and modern mirrors I picked up with just a quick look.

But as it has been said before what they advertise it for is not they will get for it.

Good luck finding abike.

Aardvark

crispyduck · Post by **crispyduck** » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:12 pm

Agreed................needs to be running at that price.

scouse · Post by **scouse** » Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:18 am

Antarctic Boy wrote:There is this one for sale on Car and Classic
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1302647
Looks to be pretty original and all there and says he's "testing the water", not used for 16 years means plenty to do for sure. I bought a "pretty" ornament that had been owned for a long time but not used and it cost a lot of time and money to get it fully sorted. But that US import went for well over 4k didn't it - this one appears to have standard air box and the pipes look pretty good.

Good luck a fully sorted KH500 hard to beat in my humble opinion, all the looks, noise, smell and reputation in a reliable and easy to live with package.

I'm sorry but the KH500 with standard airbox and pipes sounds nothing like s 69 H1

The KH500 breathes through a 10 mm hole with a metal cap while the 69 gulps air through a hole ten times the size

The KH500 is a very muted shadow of its 1st incarnation

Gary T

Post by **Triple Parts** » Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:45 am

scouse wrote:The KH500 is a very muted shadow of its 1st incarnation

Gary T

But very easy to fix and release that hp and induction roar

crispyduck · Post by **crispyduck** » Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:29 am

The KH 500 on Car and Classic needs a lot of work and it doesn't run so i am still looking

scouse · Post by **scouse** » Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:30 am

Tony_d123 wrote:
scouse wrote:The KH500 is a very muted shadow of its 1st incarnation

Gary T
But very easy to fix and release that hp and induction roar

1st thing I did when I got mine, I very quickly siezed it
Thankfully I've learnt a lot since then

Gary T

Luke Sharp · Post by **Luke Sharp** » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:39 pm

KH500 gone up for sale today on the FB site.

Chris Todd · Post by **Chris Todd** » Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:10 pm

Saw that pictures can be flattering I would have to view before committing there will be some recommissioning costs still might be worth paying a bit more for a known quantity bike

crispyduck · Post by **crispyduck** » Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:10 pm

Yes thats the same one.

husson73 · Post by **husson73** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:29 am

Tony_d123 wrote:
scouse wrote:The KH500 is a very muted shadow of its 1st incarnation

Gary T
But very easy to fix and release that hp and induction roar

+1

crispyduck · Post by **crispyduck** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:40 am

I still want one

Please let me know if there are any available.

Antarctic Boy · Post by **Antarctic Boy** » Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:17 pm

Tony_d123 wrote:
scouse wrote:The KH500 is a very muted shadow of its 1st incarnation

Gary T
But very easy to fix and release that hp and induction roar

Maybe I need to make my KH500 as noisy and smelly as an original, does anyone know the precise way to unleash the potential? Taken me ages to get it running really well, so currently has standard air filter/box and is on 1mm oversize Wiseco pistons with a 77.5 main jet (one size up I believe). The pipes are stock though I did notice that one baffle slightly different in one of the pipes. Is it simply a case of fitting K&N filters and raising the main jet size to something nearer the size of an early one or do the carbs need a myriad of changes? I don't want to butcher my airbox or make any change that is not completely reversible and I don't want to move to expansion chambers. I guess this must be a well trodden path to free the runt of the litter? Is the result effectively H1E/F performance - I've owned several H1F's in the past and suspect the claimed 59bhp pretty optimistic.
Every time I messed around with triples in my youth I always ended up seizing them or with something that was un-rideable below 6000 rpm. Trying to resist the urge to chase the magical 8bhp or is it 9bhp but the thought of having (nearer) the original power with the best chassis and brakes is an attractive one....

scouse · Post by **scouse** » Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:41 pm

Antarctic Boy wrote:
Tony_d123 wrote:
scouse wrote:The KH500 is a very muted shadow of its 1st incarnation

Gary T
But very easy to fix and release that hp and induction roar
Maybe I need to make my KH500 as noisy and smelly as an original, does anyone know the precise way to unleash the potential? Taken me ages to get it running really well, so currently has standard air filter/box and is on 1mm oversize Wiseco pistons with a 77.5 main jet (one size up I believe). The pipes are stock though I did notice that one baffle slightly different in one of the pipes. Is it simply a case of fitting K&N filters and raising the main jet size to something nearer the size of an early one or do the carbs need a myriad of changes? I don't want to butcher my airbox or make any change that is not completely reversible and I don't want to move to expansion chambers. I guess this must be a well trodden path to free the runt of the litter? Is the result effectively H1E/F performance - I've owned several H1F's in the past and suspect the claimed 59bhp pretty optimistic.
Every time I messed around with triples in my youth I always ended up seizing them or with something that was un-rideable below 6000 rpm. Trying to resist the urge to chase the magical 8bhp or is it 9bhp but the thought of having (nearer) the original power with the best chassis and brakes is an attractive one....

If you remove the top trumpet then you bike will breath through a bigger hole than the 1st H1, I would suggest starting at 120 main jet

Gary T

Post by **Triple Parts** » Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:49 pm

Not just a trumpet on the KH500, remove all the plumbing so you are left with the tin filter housing and paper filter. Higgspeeds. 102 main jets.
Some people go up a size on the pilot, but I found it runs fine with the standard pilot and retains some fuel economy. I get over 100 miles before reserve which is great on an "enthusiatic" triples ride out as I only have to fill up every other time compared to others

I have run this spec for several years and a few thousand reliable miles

Wessiedave · Post by **Wessiedave** » Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:45 am

I'm similar set up to Tony, 102.5 mains (30 pilot) removed silencer and top feeder tube leaving airbox and KnN filter, and recently fitted some old Allspeeds.
I've no idea what power it has but it's immense fun, oh, and you might need better brakes !

Antarctic Boy · Post by **Antarctic Boy** » Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:48 pm

Wessiedave wrote:I'm similar set up to Tony, 102.5 mains (30 pilot) removed silencer and top feeder tube leaving airbox and KnN filter, and recently fitted some old Allspeeds.
I've no idea what power it has but it's immense fun, oh, and you might need better brakes !

Many thanks for the formula to get the genie out of the bottle so to speak - nice little task for the spring I think

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