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KH250 electronic ignition

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Hi all, looking for an electronic ignition set up for my 250, looks like a couple available out there, anybody had any success with any of them??
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PS Hope you all had a great crimbo, and best wishes for a great tripling new year :D
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Not the boyer
Feeling flush try the power dynamo system or go down the no nonsense route of sticking to points

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Thanks Gary
You surprise me, always thought the boyer was good, been around long enough, will check out the other one you mentioned,
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TIM500 wrote:Thanks Gary
You surprise me, always thought the boyer was good, been around long enough, will check out the other one you mentioned,
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Scouse , you'll probably need to explain why you disapprove of the Boyer , as this is one of those "goldfish' threads , that keeps popping up !!

Earlier S1s and the S2s struggle to power the Boyer system , and still charge the battery , especially if you run with lights on,. The alternator output is too low. The KH250 has a greater alternator output , but it would still be touch. And go.

There may be another reason for Gaz's dislike of the Boyer system, but I am experiencing one of those Goldfish moments ?!!!

anyone any experience of the Newtronics system , on any Triple ???

( b.t.w. I always advise just sticking with points. As long as your points cam isn't worn , a set of new points and condensers is not only far cheaper , but equally or more reliable. sure to need to set them up and adjust them occasionally. But so what . it's easy to do . and easy to learn how to do. Let's face it , how many miles a year are you going to do ? I doubt you'd wear the points enough to need any adjustments for a couple of years in reality ? )
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The boyer runs a wasted spark IE all 3 plugs fire at once, which means it needs a very good battery to run, also, if you get some fusty connections with the bike sitting, this could reduce the volts supplied to the boyer
It's caused quite a lot of hassle for a few people on here.

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I ran a boyer for 25 + years on h1 and it was good as long as charging circuit was ok now changed to power dynamo which is still wasted spark system but uses less power
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scouse wrote:The boyer runs a wasted spark IE all 3 plugs fire at once, which means it needs a very good battery to run, also, if you get some fusty connections with the bike sitting, this could reduce the volts supplied to the boyer
It's caused quite a lot of hassle for a few people on here.

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Ok. That all sounds like sense. My understanding is that the Boyer drags 1 .5v. Off the reading across the battery when motor is running .
On an S2 , the charging system isn't putting 13v out until engine revs above 4500 rpm. Hence flat batteries when running a Boyer , and either lights , or just creeping through town !! not sure what output is on a KH250 , but you get the idea.

( don't know what the Powerdynamo system. Uses. But , it's a complete all new generating system, so fewer old parts in total involved , and designed for the bike , so made to cope with lights and ignition etc. )

I'd still stick with points , on a KH250 , unless you just absolutely love the bike , and just want to give it an Xmas prezzie !!
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oldman wrote:I ran a boyer for 25 + years on h1 and it was good as long as charging circuit was ok now changed to power dynamo which is still wasted spark system but uses less power
And , I'm with Ray on this one. Especially on an early H1 . 69-71. With distributor systems , if it was my bike , I'd junk All those whirly bits and ht cables, especially the wobbly fast wearing distributor rotor and cap.
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Phew, checked out the power dynamo system and much as I love my 250, no way is it getting a birthday present like that, especially as it rarely gets a run, and you have all convinced me to stick with the points etc, I even have a set of new ones in the garage.
Thanks for all the advice
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Second what the chaps say about sensitivity to voltage. Had a similar problem with the CB750 back in the day. Was fine provided the battery voltage was up to scratch. But when I ran all three headlamps (!!!!) used to start to misfire at high revs. No other trouble though.

Halfway through fitting the Powerdynamo to the H1A. Lovely looking bit of kit

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