Hi All.
Experimented with some of the above and grubby old engine parts.
After 5 minutes and a good sluicing, good results.
Another 5 minutes even better.
After 15 minutes and it started to smoke and went black.
Sorry no pics just my observations, worth considering though.
Then tried it on my garden wall and absolute rubbish results.
Doc
Brick and Paving stone cleaner
- Doctorpayday
- Expert
- Posts: 816
- Joined: Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:43 pm
- Location: Ascot
Brick and Paving stone cleaner
No Poke without Smoke.
-
robh1f
- Expert
- Posts: 3030
- Joined: Wed May 03, 2006 8:05 pm
- Location: Essex Coast
Re: Brick and Paving stone cleaner
Yep good old hydrochloric acid !! Excellent for derusting insides of gas tanks etc etc 
-
Neil the Don
- Expert
- Posts: 2804
- Joined: Thu May 04, 2006 12:52 pm
- Location: West Yorkshire
Re: Brick and Paving stone cleaner
Most of them are about a 20% solution. Fairly easy to just wash off.
I've got some here which is at 35%. WHOOO!!!! You can' t leave it alone for 5 mins. It smokes on application.
At that level it's best to try and neutralise it with an alkaline solution . Balance the ph innat. Innit .
I've got some here which is at 35%. WHOOO!!!! You can' t leave it alone for 5 mins. It smokes on application.
At that level it's best to try and neutralise it with an alkaline solution . Balance the ph innat. Innit .
-
Vin
- Inter
- Posts: 83
- Joined: Fri May 06, 2016 5:38 pm
- Location: South Yorks
Re: Brick and Paving stone cleaner
I have used Phosphoric acid on rust - to make the Metal (Iron) to a phosphate salt - which can be scrubbed off quite easily.
The Hydrochloric acid is quite vigorous (fizzes) even at 20% - I too had some 35 % which you need to be very careful with!
The Hydrochloric acid is quite vigorous (fizzes) even at 20% - I too had some 35 % which you need to be very careful with!
Last edited by Vin on Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:36 am, edited 1 time in total.
-
Neil the Don
- Expert
- Posts: 2804
- Joined: Thu May 04, 2006 12:52 pm
- Location: West Yorkshire
Re: Brick and Paving stone cleaner
Yes you do !!Vin wrote:I have used Phosphoric acid on rust - to make the Metal (Iron) to a phosphate salt - which can be scrubbed off quite easily.
The Hydrochloric acid is quite vigorous (fizzes) even a t 20% - I too had some 35 % which you need to be very careful with!
We use it mainly for derusting internals of petrol tanks. So phosporic is not much use, as you cannot scrub it off. any residue means a fine silt to clog up primary jets later on.
35% hydrochloride is ideal. but you need to flush thoroughly, and then. Dry and oil up as quickly to avoid a flash rusting again !!
-
MalcP
- Inter
- Posts: 62
- Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:14 pm
- Location: S.E.London
Re: Brick and Paving stone cleaner
Too true it's dodgy stuff. You can add the concentrated acid to water to lower it's strength but you MUST remember the following:-Vin wrote:I have used Phosphoric acid on rust - to make the Metal (Iron) to a phosphate salt - which can be scrubbed off quite easily.
The Hydrochloric acid is quite vigorous (fizzes) even a t 20% - I too had some 35 % which you need to be very careful with!
Here lies Gillian, still and placid;
Who added water to the acid.
Clever Jane did as she oughter;
Added acid to the water.
Gillian's method produced so much heat the water boiled and splashed the stuff all over her!!
MalcP
- Windy
- Expert
- Posts: 321
- Joined: Wed May 03, 2006 8:05 pm
- Location: Ass end of Derbyshire
Re: Brick and Paving stone cleaner
That reminds me of another saying drummed into us at school
Little willy is dead and gone,
he wont be seen no more
What he thought was h20 was h2so4
Little willy is dead and gone,
he wont be seen no more
What he thought was h20 was h2so4
-
kas750
- Expert
- Posts: 2422
- Joined: Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:04 pm
- Location: CHORLEY LANCASHIRE
Re: Brick and Paving stone cleaner
You can use methanol for drying.Neil the Don wrote:Vin wrote: Dry and oil up as quickly to avoid a flash rusting again !!
- Ogri211
- Expert
- Posts: 174
- Joined: Thu Jul 09, 2015 7:48 pm
- Location: Glasgow
Re: Brick and Paving stone cleaner
That will be the same as the stuff I used when I was lining my tank I got Spirit of salts out the hardware shop it's drain cleaner which is Muiric acid which I belive is diluted hydrochloric acid I swooshed it about the tank for about 15 minutes then washed it ou with a solution of bicarbonate of soda then de watered it with acetone leaves it like brand new. It's also good for dissolving alluminium it was good for cleaning the bits of piston off of my liner when I seized it last year.
Kawasaki H1B, Suzuki GT750A, Triumph Rocket3, Honda 400 four.
-
ZeeRexxer
- Expert
- Posts: 104
- Joined: Fri Mar 20, 2015 4:23 pm
- Location: Cheshire
Re: Brick and Paving stone cleaner
Used to work with 82% Sulphuric acid, great at de-rusting everything! 