Tyres for H1

johnnymoped · Post by **johnnymoped** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:08 am

1973 H1 tyres - recommendations please - I would like to keep the original look as far as possible. In my opinion the modern sticky tyres don't look right on a classic - but all input appreciated.

Olde Coney · Post by **Olde Coney** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:47 am

bt 45..or avon roadrunners

Neil the Don · Post by **Neil the Don** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:27 am

Those are modern looking tyres O.C.

Best all round fro old fashioned style, good modern grip ( and fergawdssake-WET Weather !!! grip ) are either........ta ra ,

Metzeler Me11 front ME77 rear. approx £120 pr

or Heidenau `s. ( owned by Metzeler, bit cheaper. )

OR you could always go the Japanese Dunlop route, as o.e.m. style fitted to the Z1. Z-Power do them for not too much .

Just make sure you fit the right sizes. Too fat on the back makes it handla like crap.

4.00 x 18 R 3.25 x 19 Fr. on the Metzelers.

husson73 · Post by **husson73** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:34 pm

original : Dunlop K 81

Olde Coney · Post by **Olde Coney** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:38 pm

Neil the Don wrote:Those are modern looking tyres O.C.

Best all round fro old fashioned style, good modern grip ( and fergawdssake-WET Weather !!! grip ) are either........ta ra ,

Metzeler Me11 front ME77 rear. approx £120 pr

or Heidenau `s. ( owned by Metzeler, bit cheaper. )

OR you could always go the Japanese Dunlop route, as o.e.m. style fitted to the Z1. Z-Power do them for not too much .

Just make sure you fit the right sizes. Too fat on the back makes it handla like crap.

4.00 x 18 R 3.25 x 19 Fr. on the Metzelers.

yeah I know Neil..I would always recommend the safer option for a rider

Vince · Post by **Vince** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:13 pm

There's always the question

Do you want them to look at or keep you from sitting on the road.

Nasty modern types can transform the handing performance.

I never leave home without them.

Vince

Eric · Post by **Eric** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:30 pm

When I had my H1A in 1971 I think the rear tyre was a Japanese Dunlop 420 or 425 and when I repalced it the nearest I could get was the K81 or TT100 which was a 410. It`s a long time ago and I am now getting on so the memory could be playing tricks am I right or wrong?
By the way I use the TT100`s front and back now.

Androu · Post by **Androu** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:49 pm

Got TT100's on my H1D and H2 and been fine.

johnnymoped · Post by **johnnymoped** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:10 am

I seem to remember running a Pirelli of some sort on my '70 H1 - it was a new design in about 1979.
Have also considered Dunlop K70 - any thoughts

Also the tyres from Z power - are they OK for a rider

Don't plan to go out in the wet or go scratching too much

Thanks for the input so far

kas750 · Post by **kas750** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:14 am

Johnnymoped wrote: Have also considered Dunlop K70 - any thoughts

I had those on my h1a..I wouldn't say they are neccesarily good or bad as every time i rode it,it tried to kill me anyway!..They do have a good period looking read pattern though..

husson73 · Post by **husson73** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:16 am

K 70 is shit, my father on the seventies fallen down on his Yamaha RD 125cc with such tyres, he never fit some again after

Neil the Don · Post by **Neil the Don** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:26 am

K70`s and even Avon Safety mileage ( which look square !! ) are fine. You can get your pegs down with either

J.P. There is an English saying
" A bad Workman , always blames his tools "

Usually when you fall off, Pride does not let you accept you made a mistake. There was oil on the road ,or , the tyres are rubbish !! etc etc
But in the spirit of the Entente Cordiale , your Father was probably just too fast a rider for either the 125 or British tyres on French roads !! ( Michelins I find are very hard tyres that last a long time, but are not so sporty. But I know many French riders who will only use Michelins )

TT100`s I find, slow the steering down considerably. And can make the bike more prone to wallowing , or feel like the steering damper is wound up too far.

BT45`s make H2`s steer amazingly well. I have never ridden any other Triple with them fitted. But I`m sure its as good.

Of course, this is all very subjective. But I get through life by believing that I`m always right , it helps a lot !!

husson73 · Post by **husson73** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:22 am

Neil excepted was on the lead on my RD 350 K 81 , no troubles and see on the mirrors the tyre suddenly slides and then my father on the ground.

Rubbadub · Post by **Rubbadub** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:17 pm

i have avon road riders on an s1 and an h2, both handle brilliantly

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:26 pm

Rubbadub wrote:i have avon road riders on an s1 and an h2, both handle brilliantly

Oh good, I've just ordered Road Riders for my new S3

johnnymoped · Post by **johnnymoped** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:39 am

Has any one got pictures of any of these tyres on their bikes so I can see please?
Thanks.
John

kas750 · Post by **kas750** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:44 am

Neil the Don · Post by **Neil the Don** » Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:19 pm

A NEW S3. WOW.
KEEP THE BOX IT CAME IN TOO.

( aNDERSON WILL BE AFTER THAT ! )

johnnymoped · Post by **johnnymoped** » Sat Dec 03, 2011 9:23 pm

So the choice is TT100, K70's or the ones from Z power?
Does anybody have anything more to say about any of these - clearly I am not going to be scratching on my H1 but I do want to be fast and safe!
So any further advice is gratefully received.

husson73 · Post by **husson73** » Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:02 am

The TT 100 slides more on the curves than BT 45 but it doesn't matter on an early H1 cause you'ven't ground clearance (on H2 is an other story), I usually do around 4.000 kilometers rear with TT 100 on my 69 and more than 6.000 kilometers on BT 45 with my H2s.

Eric · Post by **Eric** » Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:05 am

I use the TT100`s on my H1A and as JP says you can`t lean it over far enough to worry about the grip, well not with the Higgspeeds on. Back in the 70`s I used TT100 on the back (the best you could get back then) and a ribbed on the front and I pushed it a lot harder then. The handling was exciting though

but on a road you knew it was OK the problem arose on roads you did`nt know. I learnt from experience

Neil the Don · Post by **Neil the Don** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:13 pm

METZELERS !!!!!!!